HWBOT OC Challenge November 2010

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Rank Participant 1x CPU 2x CPU 3x CPU 4x CPU
Total Points
1 10 pts 10 pts 10 pts 10 pts 40 pts
2 5 pts 8 pts 8 pts 8 pts 29 pts
3 6 pts 3 pts 5 pts 4 pts 18 pts
4 4 pts 4 pts 6 pts 1 pts 15 pts
5 8 pts 6 pts 0 pts 14 pts
6 3 pts 2 pts 4 pts 3 pts 12 pts
7 2 pts 3 pts 6 pts 11 pts
8 5 pts 2 pts 7 pts
9 5 pts 5 pts
10 1 pts 1 pts 2 pts
11 0 pts 2 pts 0 pts 2 pts
12 0 pts 1 pts 1 pts
13 0 pts 0 pts
14 0 pts 0 pts
15 0 pts 0 pts
16 0 pts 0 pts 0 pts
17 0 pts 0 pts

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First Position

40 pts XtremeSystems

Discussions

November 1, 2010 at 10:15:59 AM UTC

Good morning, pcmv - great! I love this benchmark!

And no six core? - this makes it harder, although 4 core procs can do well in this bench also!

Just to be sure - older benches are ok to submit (prior to 01Nov?)

November 1, 2010 at 10:19:04 AM UTC

Yeah, limited to 4x CPU because I want to see CPU limited runs :-)

 

Older benches can be submit as long as they fit the limitations

November 1, 2010 at 10:41:43 AM UTC

Mr. Massman, have you run pcmv against many single cores?

 

Its a very tough bench for those little guys.

November 1, 2010 at 10:48:02 AM UTC

Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

November 1, 2010 at 10:51:55 AM UTC

Can a valid futurmark link be supplied in place of the subscores in the screenshot?

November 1, 2010 at 11:06:07 AM UTC

Mr. Massman, have you run pcmv against many single cores?

 

Its a very tough bench for those little guys.

 

I have never run PCMark Vantage in my life ... so this challenge will be the first time :D

 

The more stress is put on the CPU, the better. I like tough benchmarks.

 

Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

That's okay. The competition is mainly to motivate people to bench something new, it's not to get people to submit old results.

 

Can a valid futurmark link be supplied in place of the subscores in the screenshot?

 

No, subtest scores must be in the screenshot.

November 1, 2010 at 11:28:26 AM UTC

One thing I noticed... the way the rules are written it sounds like you can disable cores on something like a 980x and bench to get a nice score in the 2 core category. Is that on purpose?

November 1, 2010 at 11:35:17 AM UTC

It goes a bit like Knopfrlerbruce's question: can we use a 4-core CPU and disable HT (Intel only) or do we have to use 4-core CPU with no HT ?

November 1, 2010 at 11:46:06 AM UTC

It's like it is in normal HWBOT: you're allowed to unlock cores and play in a 'higher' league, but you're not allowed to disable cores to play in a 'lower' league. So: unlocking 2 to 4 is allowed (playing in 4), but disabling 6 to 1 is not allowed (you'll still be playing in 6-core league).

 

Hyperthreading is a feature, so of course you can enable it for the 4-core category.

November 1, 2010 at 3:51:23 PM UTC

Nice OC challenge this month!

November 2, 2010 at 9:37:42 AM UTC

Could you please update stages with core count. Now looks like we are benching multiprocessor systems.... 1x CPU instead of 1x Core CPU....

November 2, 2010 at 9:39:47 AM UTC

?

 

It says "use X processor core(s)" ... that's #cores?

November 3, 2010 at 2:35:16 PM UTC

Sorry for another lamer's question. Core i5 670 with 2 core and 4 threads will be placed on 2 core stage isn't it? If yes - this will be not fair coz HT gives some boost. AMD cpuz haven't HT....

November 3, 2010 at 3:02:52 PM UTC

Sorry for another lamer's question. Core i5 670 with 2 core and 4 threads will be placed on 2 core stage isn't it? If yes - this will be not fair coz HT gives some boost. AMD cpuz haven't HT....

Just look at Wprime rankings with 2x CPUs and see whre AMD is.

November 3, 2010 at 3:04:31 PM UTC

You are correct: 2 cores and 4 threads go into the 2-core competition.

 

Why? Hyperthreading is a feature Intel implented to improve the multi-threading performance. It's a FEATURE, just like 'amount of L2 cache' is :)

November 3, 2010 at 5:03:18 PM UTC

I guess the problem is with core count getting more and more blurred. HT is an investment in die area that does not increase core count but increases performance. Next gen AMD CPUs have something opposite - decrease of die area (per 2 cores) enabling higher core counts. Core count based rankings will be even more Intel-biased then, unless we count bulldozer modules as cores (which is wrong) or logical cores as cores (which is also wrong) or base our rankings on thread count instead of core count (which will unleash a storm of whining and outrage).

November 4, 2010 at 8:35:07 AM UTC

You are correct: 2 cores and 4 threads go into the 2-core competition.

 

So it's good to have 2 and 4 core configs on intel...... While 1 and 3 cores only AMD...

This can be interesting...

November 4, 2010 at 7:22:35 PM UTC

Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

That's okay.

 

Does this mean that we dont need the mainboard tab from previous benchmarks to enter this competition ?

November 4, 2010 at 7:43:19 PM UTC

No, it means that many members not being able to submit old results is not a problem for me. As these kinds of challenges are meant for people to make new scores

November 4, 2010 at 7:49:02 PM UTC

ok thanks

November 5, 2010 at 5:24:10 AM UTC

if we have a URL for a top score will that work in lieu of a screenie?

November 5, 2010 at 8:06:56 AM UTC

No, screenie is mandatory, URL is additional

November 11, 2010 at 9:09:42 AM UTC

It's like it is in normal HWBOT: you're allowed to unlock cores and play in a 'higher' league, but you're not allowed to disable cores to play in a 'lower' league. So: unlocking 2 to 4 is allowed (playing in 4), but disabling 6 to 1 is not allowed (you'll still be playing in 6-core league).

 

Hyperthreading is a feature, so of course you can enable it for the 4-core category.

 

i can not submit Phenom II 710 with 4-core unlocked on 4-core category

the error message: "Use 4 processor core(s) in total" :(

November 11, 2010 at 9:12:53 AM UTC

Can the people who have problems submitting with unlocked cores post the URLs of the scores here, please?

 

I will manually link them to the competition untill the bug is solved coding-wise.

November 11, 2010 at 10:12:02 AM UTC

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1076665_

thanks

November 11, 2010 at 10:17:17 AM UTC

Added to competition :)

November 11, 2010 at 4:58:25 PM UTC

i have the same problem with a x2 550 unlock 3cores.

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1076488_masape_pcmark_vantage_phenom_ii_x2_550_be_7970_marks

 

thanks

November 13, 2010 at 1:31:00 AM UTC

massman please add to masape

November 13, 2010 at 10:02:59 AM UTC

Added to competition

November 13, 2010 at 12:11:48 PM UTC

It goes a bit like Knopfrlerbruce's question: can we use a 4-core CPU and disable HT (Intel only) or do we have to use 4-core CPU with no HT ?

 

so, have you a response for this answer ?

November 13, 2010 at 12:31:31 PM UTC

Added to competition

 

 

mi submision is for 3 cores,but its in a 4 cores competition.

 

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1076488_masape_pcmark_vantage_phenom_ii_x2_550_be_7970_marks

 

thanks for all.

November 13, 2010 at 12:32:52 PM UTC

Oh, sorry, my bad!

 

Fixed it.

November 15, 2010 at 7:08:06 PM UTC

Massman, please add my two submissions to competition:

 

One for X3 CPU:

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1078655_remiko_pcmark_vantage_phenom_ii_x2_560_be_14101_marks

 

And two for X4 CPU:

 

http://hwbot.org/community/submission/1078657_remiko_pcmark_vantage_phenom_ii_x2_560_be_15336_marks

 

Thanks

November 17, 2010 at 11:31:56 AM UTC

Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

November 17, 2010 at 11:41:20 AM UTC

 

Done!

November 19, 2010 at 9:10:52 AM UTC

Hi. I have athlon 2 X2 220 CPU, with AM3 socket and C3 stepping. It's missing in submition CPU list and after unlock showed in CPU-Z like phenom 2 X4 920 with stepping window blank.

 

ed8bacb8812ft.jpg

 

Could you add CPU in list, coz we are planning to make some submitions with this CPU soon.

November 19, 2010 at 9:32:51 AM UTC

the cpu is already there :)

http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/athlon_ii_x2_220

November 20, 2010 at 4:04:57 PM UTC

Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

 

sometimes yu can wait it out sometimes it never changes, i haven't figured it out either.

November 20, 2010 at 8:02:09 PM UTC

Oh, sorry, my bad!

 

Fixed it.

 

Given what you have to put up with sometimes, i can understand how you might feel you are 70.

November 22, 2010 at 9:20:19 AM UTC

sometimes yu can wait it out sometimes it never changes, i haven't figured it out either.

 

Thanks for the answer SteveRo, i've tried to figure it out for hours but the issue seems to be random.

 

Sorry guys for my english :D

November 23, 2010 at 10:52:37 PM UTC

Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

 

No idea, it does it even at stock here :D Must be some caching problem. Weird thing is if you only select the gaming suite, then the forst benchie runs fine and smooth... if you do the pcmark suite it runs choppy and eventually craps out...

November 23, 2010 at 11:14:11 PM UTC

can i use this one for 1 core competition???

November 23, 2010 at 11:56:39 PM UTC

Hehehe if it was up to me : Nope , coz you use in reality two processor cores... not one real and one HT one like some...

 

If you are allowed it's an easy win there :P

November 24, 2010 at 8:13:16 AM UTC

can i use this one for 1 core competition???

 

No.

 

In total you use 2x1=2 cores

November 24, 2010 at 8:55:41 AM UTC

but the cpu-z shows 1 core 2 threads :S

November 24, 2010 at 9:15:17 AM UTC

You'll see that the #CPU field is active, indicating there are multiple physical CPUs.

November 24, 2010 at 10:30:17 AM UTC

No idea, it does it even at stock here :D Must be some caching problem. Weird thing is if you only select the gaming suite, then the forst benchie runs fine and smooth... if you do the pcmark suite it runs choppy and eventually craps out...

 

Thanks :D Also at stock here, sometimes it's Windows which stops 3DMV, sometimes black screen after Gaming Test 1... I would say 1/10 run ends ok.

We'll try that under Ln² next monday, I think it's gonna be funny with that issues :D

November 24, 2010 at 12:07:50 PM UTC

I had one succesfull run today (1/23 lol), it continued after the black screen after a few loops, score was too low though to compete :( I'm gonn a try phase in the weekend, though the cpu will limit me at 4.2Ghz max :(

 

I posted our issue on the FM webbie.. Jarnis is intrigued ( which is a good thing lol )

November 24, 2010 at 12:20:51 PM UTC

You'll see that the #CPU field is active, indicating there are multiple physical CPUs.

 

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1500230

 

is that enough?

November 24, 2010 at 7:27:49 PM UTC

Enough for what?

 

The competition is a single core competition. Using two times a single core equals ... using two cores. And two cores is not one core.

 

If you open the CPU-Z application, you'll notice that the active processor box is active. For dumps that might be different.

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