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I have payed already Nothing strange that you pay to enter a contest, like in every other sport when there is a decent prize pool.

But you probably have to change the rules. Retail/commercial BIOS only? That would make elmors and the stilts work useless. Also no XOC bioses for motherboards... Rule should be "publicly available" or something like that...

I agree, this was planned to be stated as "publicly available BIOS only"

We will change the rules

Edit Updated

When does the €50 entry fee have to be paid by?

October 10, noon GMT+8. At that point we announce the contestants and there's a week to submit. The competition page will be available by the end of the day (so everyone can prepare their scores to submit between October 10 and October 17.

Have HW and LN2.

Anyone want to sponsor me the entry fee? LOL

Hopefully have enough time with work to enter.

October 10, noon GMT+8. At that point we announce the contestants and there's a week to submit. The competition page will be available by the end of the day (so everyone can prepare their scores to submit between October 10 and October 17.

So to clarify, is the wallpaper made available before October the 10th so benching can be done and then submitted in the final week?? If its not made available till the 10th then thats gonna make it hard for some.

Nice comp.

The wallpaper* will be up by the end of the day, allowing anyone who wants to prepare to bench up front. The competition itself opens only on the 10th, after the pre-registration closed.

Sorry for the confusion

Thanks for the clarification.

Wallpaper available: https://hwbotnews.s3.amazonaws.com/Competitions/1744_HwcWildcard2016/HWS16-wildcard-Wallpaper.png

Best of luck everyone!

Was it intended for the y-cruncher to be a low clock stage? I just tested the different calculation methods and the ones with avx2 are much faster. Even high clocks on ln2 won't help...

@Rauf,

Woops, thanks.

y-cruncher will be replaced by 3DMark11 Physics:

a Core i3 (Skylake), Pentium (Skylake), Celeron (Skylake) processor

Only use latest version: v1.0.132

SystemInfo Version 4.48 (enabled and running)

Valid link mandatory

A verification screenshot is required

Download official wallpaper: here

a Radeon RX 460 videocard

Screenshot: CPUZ (CPU, Memory, Motherboard), GPUZ, 3DM11 Physics score.

@Rauf,

Woops, thanks.

y-cruncher will be replaced by 3DMark11 Physics:

a Core i3 (Skylake), Pentium (Skylake), Celeron (Skylake) processor

Only use latest version: v1.0.132

SystemInfo Version 4.48 (enabled and running)

Valid link mandatory

A verification screenshot is required

Download official wallpaper: here

a Radeon RX 460 videocard

Screenshot: CPUZ (CPU, Memory, Motherboard), GPUZ, 3DM11 Physics score.

No worries, I only charge 52.50€ for beta testing

Which versions of Fire Strike and GPU-PI are ok?

GPUPI 2.3x, which is mandatory now, on FSE latest sysinfo and all versions except for 1.00. As you saw, Christian just works on rules update, so for this I will ask Christian for confirmation to be 100% sure. Usually I recommend latest version because it is most reliable

Confirmation as soon as possible on Fire strike version would be much appreciated!

Use the latest version, dated 16.08. (2.1.2973), it is best to avoid problems. Latest sys info is madatory, 4,48

"Best to use it", or is it mandatory? It's an important question as results likely will differ a bit from earlier versions. I don't want to be beaten by one with version 1.1 if I run latest...

Use the latest version should be clear - 2.1.2973 is mandatory

Yep

man cant believe I killed my golden 6500mhz 6100 right before this came around. I am so upset with myself, that chip still looks like one of the fastest around, goodbye, what a horrible feeling that is.

Is anyone going to try a power board mod. If nobody else does I wouldnt but if some people do then I would want to try. But might not even help with this gpu.

man cant believe I killed my golden 6500mhz 6100 right before this came around. I am so upset with myself, that chip still looks like one of the fastest around, goodbye, what a horrible feeling that is.

 

 

Is anyone going to try a power board mod. If nobody else does I wouldnt but if some people do then I would want to try. But might not even help with this gpu.

Really, didn't know that. Too bad, it really was a one of a kind. But I saw you ran some crazy Vcore for i3, they are not as tough as 6700K

And now the cpu stage will be a little tighter I guess. Quite a few cpus out there around 6350MHz.

I will not use powerboard, don't have one, don't know how to use one

Really, didn't know that. Too bad, it really was a one of a kind. But I saw you ran some crazy Vcore for i3, they are not as tough as 6700K

And now the cpu stage will be a little tighter I guess. Quite a few cpus out there around 6350MHz.

 

I will not use powerboard, don't have one, don't know how to use one

ya I benched on impact the night before and let it sit 14hrs but I guess it wasnt enough, it was still a little wet and shut down and next start was 00. Really killed me for days. I just couldnt believe it.

Ya I have never done power board mod with amd card, not sure if rx460 is easy like nvidia, because the last few generations werent.

man cant believe I killed my golden 6500mhz 6100 right before this came around. I am so upset with myself, that chip still looks like one of the fastest around, goodbye, what a horrible feeling that is.

 

 

Is anyone going to try a power board mod. If nobody else does I wouldnt but if some people do then I would want to try. But might not even help with this gpu.

Man that sucks, fantastic CPU

ya I benched on impact the night before and let it sit 14hrs but I guess it wasnt enough, it was still a little wet and shut down and next start was 00. Really killed me for days. I just couldnt believe it.

 

Ya I have never done power board mod with amd card, not sure if rx460 is easy like nvidia, because the last few generations werent.

Really sucks about your i3 man

ya I benched on impact the night before and let it sit 14hrs but I guess it wasnt enough, it was still a little wet and shut down and next start was 00. Really killed me for days. I just couldnt believe it.

 

Ya I have never done power board mod with amd card, not sure if rx460 is easy like nvidia, because the last few generations werent.

Really sorry to hear this

Link to wallpaper is dead

could anyone quickly upload it so I can grab it?

Thanks in advance!

https://hwbotnews.s3.amazonaws.com/Competitions/1744_HwcWildcard2016/HWS16-wildcard-Wallpaper.png

works - anyone else having this problem?

edit - for backup http://abload.de/img/hws16-wildcard-wallpayiurw.png

IMO power boards won't do anything on the RX 460. The VRMs on the only 2 460s I would try to use both look plenty powerful. So you won't have power issues. As for power quality you could try put more caps on the VRM but the NCP should be driving each phase at 440Khz already and most recent AMD cards really didn't benefit from any of my attempts to add capacitors to the Vcore VRMs. What I would focus on is getting memory voltage, AUX, and .95V modded. Also if the memory doesn't scale with volts I would try tighter memory timings. Most AMD GPU BIOSs these days contain several sets of memory timings so it should be a case of just copying some lower clock timings into the higher clock timing slot.

No I'm not joining but I do want to mess with an RX 460. So I'll help where I can.

Can we use other vga than rx460 for physics stage? It makes it much simpler to bench if we don't have to unmount and reflash bios etc for vga to run them aircooled...

We discussed this when rules were made, we want the 460 even if it might be a bit inconvenient because we want same conditions for all and no vga/driver battle at different level. I am sure you can understand why, even though we are sorry for the inconvenience

P.S. This was a unanimous decision to keep the playing field even and also have better comparability of results

Just wanted to say that I think the idea that you have to register for the competition is a very good idea and would like that in all competitions. I have no problem with sandbagging, but when you don't even know who you're up against it's just too sneeky. There is constantly like 10 guys posting in the last hours who have posted nothing before...

I don't like it either, but on the other hand, whats wrong about it?

Sandbagging has become part of our beloved hobby...

Nevertheless I agree at least submit a placeholderscore...

I thought the competitors get announced on the 10th? So you have 7 days of knowing who's in the competition before it ends

I thought the competitors get announced on the 10th? So you have 7 days of knowing who's in the competition before it ends

Yes, and I would like all competitions to be like this!

I paid just cause I support the idea, I dont plan on submitting to be honest

I paid just cause I support the idea, I dont plan on submitting to be honest

Just wanted to say that I think the idea that you have to register for the competition is a very good idea and would like that in all competitions. I have no problem with sandbagging, but when you don't even know who you're up against it's just too sneeky. There is constantly like 10 guys posting in the last hours who have posted nothing before...

Agree,a much less probability to have a stroke while refreshing final rankings in a competition.

Ok, there are no official rules for 3D11 Physics. I see that some people in the low clock challenge have modified the settings, like modify resolution, ambient occlusion, etc. is that allowed? Changing things doesn't seem to affect score as it's all CPU calculations anyway...

Sigh, the 3dm11 rules apply for the competition and also for 3dm11 physics, I really wonder why people always change things after their own gusto. It is part of 3dm11 and it should be clear you don´t change settings.

Thank goodness there are no textures on physics lol

Sigh, the 3dm11 rules apply for the competition and also for 3dm11 physics, I really wonder why people always change things after their own gusto. It is part of 3dm11 and it should be clear you don´t change settings.

Ok, how about running windowed mode? It can help to set bclk on the fly for boards that don't have oc keys or oc panel support. It doesn't really affect settings...

When resolution/benchmark settings are OK at fm link and shown result, I cannot check this anyway and afaik this has no influence on results. This is what I care about, the things I can check, so if you can provide a valid result with running this, it should be ok

When resolution/benchmark settings are OK at fm link and shown result, I cannot check this anyway and afaik this has no influence on results. This is what I care about, the things I can check, so if you can provide a valid result with running this, it should be ok

You can see it under settings in validation link. Windowed mode...

But maybe you can change exe-properties in windows to run it in window. Don't know if that is possible...

Sorry for bugging you, but i just want to make sure.

Then it makes no sense to use window mode, I would have to block the result for being non default benchmark settings. Try hotkey for oc tools, this often works with profiles

I'm still failing to see why people change these settings if they have absolutely no influence on performance

Finally saw the contestant list - a LOT scarier than what I thought it would be hahah

Oh well, good luck everyone

Boy this is gonna be interesting to watch Good luck to all involved,time is short on my side sadly this time of the year

Small reminder, use the stated benchmark version and sysinfo, especially for stage 2 GPUPI for GPU 2,3x because I saw a lot of older versions lately at competition entries. This is not accpted anymore and upload of file will fail most likely anyway with older version

Can we still buy a ticket, I didnt realize there was a cutoff date for paying, was trying to make sure I had a decent cpu, should have just payed anyway, the button to pay is not there anymore

I tasked Pieter for this question, I fear you are too late though - maybe I am wrong

I tasked Pieter for this question, I fear you are too late though - maybe I am wrong

ok thanks, it took me so long to find a decent cpu, might be better off, will be hard to get everything ready in 6 days, just didnt realize about the cutoff date

OK, next time please ask if something is unclear, registration is closed, sorry.

Just wanted to be sure before I bench tomorrow, HWBOT allow modified tesselation factor for FSE, right?

Yes, hwbot rules apply

Good luck to the contestants

Although XA is already in the final?

Are submissions with "graphics drivers not approved" message allowed for firestrike extreme stage 1 and 3d mark 11 physics in stage 3?

Are submissions with "graphics drivers not approved" message allowed for firestrike extreme stage 1 and 3d mark 11 physics in stage 3?

Yes, this is valid bc hwbot rules apply

Sorry CPU died, will not have time to get another, good luck to all.

Bummer Jicc

where is Steponz ?

same place as XA, /dev/null?

Ban them both,slackers....

Kept thinking there was going to be a flurry of submissions in the last minute or two.

Congratulations @Lucky_n00b

Soe we have a problem with the new point scheme.

A "tie" from the first looks...

The rules doesn't say, what happens, when there is a tie. So there's only one rule, that says, "Points are based on the percentage of the leading score in the stage."

so calculate one figure more behind the comma. Attached file anyway shows, that my points in gpupi should have been 99.7 instead of 99.6.

I'm not a bad looser, if everything went fine and according to the rules, but I have to show this here.

Great comp!

Congratz to all winners:)

Finally got a good sleep, haven't been sleeping much in the past week haha ^^

Just wanted to say my opinion regarding the 'tied' points between me and Daniel here. Indeed Daniel is right - if we count the percentages up to 2 digits after comma, He got a 99.69xx in the GPUPI stage, but maybe since the HWBOT / OC-eSports engine only counted to one digit, it is listed as 99.6.

So with the competition page calculation, both me and Daniel got 297.3, where in reality it should be me getting 297.34xx, and Daniel getting 297.43xx.

As a competitive overclocker, when judging result based on percentage, I personally believe that no matter how little, every score percentage should count, since every little details of it comes from a great effort from the overclocker itself.

I've tried my hardest in this competition, spending every single day with testing and benching since the competition started, pushing everything that could results in better scores. But even after all that effort, and a lucky GPU that's 50Mhz better in FSE, Daniel still beat me by around 0.09% overall.

In my personal opinion, Daniel won against me, fair and square. I just have to try harder next time. But as usual, I'll wait for official confirmation from the judges about this

Btw, Congrats everyone, it was really a tight competition, looking forward to compete with you guys in the future competition

Cheers,

Alva

^^ Fair play & awesome Spirit right there ^^

Note : waiting for the official statement

297.3 vs 297 you win congrats!

Still wondering who won this, according to OC-E Sports page Alva's got it by .3 but he's saying Daniel may have won based on point fractions. This is a tough one because Alva wins 2 stages outright which usually means the overall winner but with Daniel winning a stage himself and having 2 higher ranked stages then Alva's worse stage I'm at a loss. Congratulations anyways as you will still get a great prize for 2nd place. Maybe a thumbwar is needed to determine the outcome of this one

Just to clarify - just like any other competition, after the competition window closes the staff goes over the submissions.

Official announcement will come shortly, stay tune!

OK, after the suspense at the last hours of the competition was enormous, we checked all scores, discussed a few of them, and the result now is final. We had to remove two scores, one of each of the top contenders (one x wrong screenshot, 1x wrong validatiion link) and now the result is final. It was a very intense competition, thanks to all participants and I really enjoyed the high level that was shown congratulation to Alva, Daniel and Allen for the top 3 spots

P.S. I had a question why the results are still on at hwbot - like for all normal ranking results, if you ask staff to fix these with enough proof, we will do so that the scores can stay at hwbot database and general ranking. This doesn´t mean they are valid for the competition they were posted for, wrong screenshot and FM link made them invalid at end of the wild card Contest for the qualifier

Congrats to Alva