Karl’s passing in September came as a shock to all of us. Turrican was an incredible force here at HWBOT, and a loved member of the Overclockers.at community. Together with OC.AT we host the Turrican Memorial Charity Challenge in memory of Karl.
In Karl’s name we donate to the St. Anna Kinderspital, a children’s hospital in Austria. To donate in Karl’s name you can purchase a Hardware Terminator T-Shirt from the Overclockers.at shop. Your donation is forwarded to the charity. You can also contribute by participating in this Challenge. Noctua offers to donate EUR €1 for each competitor joining the Turrican Memorial Challenge and together with EKWB arranged a couple of prizes.
The competition rules are simple: bench what you want and how hard you want. In the first stage, "Turrican's Choice", the oldest hardware wins. In the second stage, "All Out", the fastest hardware wins. Good luck!
We know Turrican as the Hardware Terminator. His home community at Overclockers.at designed special T-Shirts for the charity. For each EUR €30 spent on a t-shirt, EUR €5 is donated to the St. Anna Kinderspital. You can donate more if you want to, of course.
You can purchase a t-shirt at the Overclockers.at online shop HERE.
In addition to the donation of EUR €1 per participant in the Turrican Memorial Charity Challenge, Noctua also provides a couple of prizes. We extended the competition to February 28 and the following additional prizes are up for grabs for the top-3 in both stages.
Stage 1 - Oldschool
Stage 2 - All out
| # | User | Team | Points |
| 1 | 50 pts | ||
| 2 | 42 pts | ||
| 3 | 35 pts | ||
| 4 | 31 pts | ||
| 5 | 27 pts | ||
| 6 | 23 pts | ||
| 7 | 21 pts | ||
| 8 | 19 pts | ||
| 9 | 18 pts | ||
| 10 | 17 pts |
jab383
Dear community,
the most quiet time of the year is here, where we think about about our family and friends. This year we have lost a big part of the overclocking community, our dear Karl. So I would like to invite you to join us in honoring his name by participating in our donation campaign for an Austrian children hospital dedicated to researching cancer especially for young patients. The idea was born when you guys asked where you could donate to his family, but they wanted you to help the hospital instead. Now this idea is wrapped up the way Turrican would like it ...
To cut things short, overclockers.at (my site), our friends from Noctua and HWBot have teamed up to present you the Turrican Memorial Challenge! It's a contest with two stages using GPUPI, the benchmark I dedicated to Turrican a few weeks ago. The first stage is called "Turrican's choice" and focuses on old hardware. Run GPUPI in 1B on the oldest CPU possible and overclock the hell out of it afterwards. The oldest chip with the fastest run wins! Yes, you know you wouldn't stand a chance if Karl could participate.
The second stage is GPUPI in 1B for graphics cards all out. The fastest run wins, whatever it takes! We would like to see some crazy 290s on liquid nitrogen here, so be ready to refill your containers. But this contest should not be all about winning and prizes. Noctua, some of the guys there knew Turrican personally, will donate 1 Euro for every participant of this contest! So get ready to crunch some pi on your system, all of you can make this happen. The contest will start whenever HWBot is ready. It will be officially announced in the news.
In addition to the contest we have prepared something special to take the donation campaign to another level. At overclockers.at we have been giving out "Hardware Terminator" shirts for the winners of our little overclocking contests. It's Turrican's nickname that Monstru gave him when he visited Austria for an OC event in 2009. It kind of stuck and we made a couple of shirts just for fun. They were not for sale, they had to be earned by liquid nitrogen, sweat and blood.
Turrican wearing is his shirt surround by his most favorite toys.
For this donation campaign we've redesigned this shirts a bit and made them available in our web shop in multiple cuts and colors. They will be printed on demand in small by a little company here in Austria and shipped by us as soon as they are ready. To be able to buy one, you have to donate at least 5 Euros to the donation campaign. We let the amount of the donation open to your choosing. Every Euro is appreciated and will be directly forwarded as it is. The proceedings of the whole campaign will be officially handed over to St. Anna Kinderspital in February next year. More details on that as soon as possible.
I wish you all a merry christmas, have fun benching, get yourself a nice shirt and help us with this good cause!
Links: English web shop with international shipping | Turrican Memory Challenge (starts soon)
Awesome. I will participate and donate.
Karl was an old school hardware aficionado. If in my lifetime I could acquire half the knowledge he had, I would be satisfied.
Thanks for the opportunity to participate.
Great idea, really. The Hardware Guru would be proud.
I'm gettiny myself a shirt or two.
Mat, how old a cpu can you run this on?
I get this error on a Pentium 2 on XP SP3.
If I'm not mistaken he's using VS2013, which does not compile for XP unless specified in compiler options. Also SSE2 is a minimum, but can be disabled afaik.
OK............but he says it's XP compatible.
So it really isn't?
Also, there should be some minimum requirements listed somewhere then.
So what exactly is the oldest CPU this will run on?
Netburst processors (Pentium 4, Xeon, Celeron, Pentium D, Celeron D)
Via C7
A64
is what I come up with.
If SSE2 is required, then the oldest supported CPU would be Pentium 4 1.4 and 1.5 GHz Willamette socket 423. Both introduced in Q3 2000.
Also - Windows 7 runs on this platform just fine, if necessary.
Its time to dust off my Abit TH7 RAID.
Didn't really want to do this if I didn't have to.
I guess the 478 Willamette's would be the next oldest at Aug. of 2001
Northies after that.
Gonna grab me some t-shirts in respect of the Porsche Masta
Got my 423 socket ready to go actually. Never benched it before though.
The competition page is up and running.
Stage 1 isn't working 100% yet as for some reason the scores are not ranked by oldest CPU release but by score. Looking in to this right now.
Hope to find some time to pay my little tribute to Karl - he was truely outstanding and will always be remembered...
Great idea!
First off a word about compatibility. I'm using the newest CUDA toolkit for best performance, but it doesn't support Windows XP. That's why GPUPI.exe and GPUPI_CUDA.exe won't work on XP and Server 2003. But the pure OpenCL version does. You just need the VS2013 redistributable and some OpenCL drivers of course.
As for OpenCL itself, it will need SSE3 support, so compatibility goes back to Pentium 4 (since Prescott) on Socket 478 and old AMD Athlon 64 (since Venice) on Socket 754. Here is an outdated list of CPUs with SSE3: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions_3
That's part of the challenge, as well as finding a working driver.Thanks Mat. The clarification makes it a bit easier to understand.
Maybe in an update you could include all of the required accessories needed to run this (except OpenCL drivers of course), maybe packaged in an installer? Just thinking out loud. Thanks again.
Excellent idea!
Karl loved old school hardware and has known a lot. Year of losses.
Competition shared on Cowcotland.com !
Need a maximum communication about this for St. Anna Kinderspital ^^
Nice, thanks!
Does downclocking is is allowed?
Please write ALL allow hardware and all software requirements. This version of Rules do not have correct conditions of competitions.
Downclocking is counter productive as using older hardware with a fast time is what will win you this competition
Oldest hardware with best score is good idea for sure. But how exactly is the best overall score determined?
For example - single-core CPU from 2004 finish the benchmark in 1 hour. Dual-core from 2005 scores 30 minutes... which one is better?
CPU from 2004 will always win. But if you both have the same CPU, best score wins.
Do NOT understand nothing, give us example, or better write a simple and clear criterias.
GuyOne take a 2014 CPU and do a 5min run (figures for the example).
GuyTwo take a 2005 CPU and do a 50min run.
GuyThree take a 2005 CPU and do a 51min run.
The final podium wiil be :
1. GuyTwo
2. GuyThree
3. GuyOne
Can a modo add my run to the first stage please ? http://hwbot.org/submission/2715801_
Can't add it myself since i added the rig picture after the submission
Stage two with GTX 760 now ^^
So, if I am rigt...competition is with the oldest possible HW that run the benchmarks right?
Seems interesting, really interesting.
Could somebody help me to buy a T-Shirt? I am not sure that if I do it with International shipping, arrive someday.
Taloken, well explained. Thanks.
saint, I coded the shop myself. How can I help?
Just to clarify, Socket 478 CPUs came out before their 775 counterparts despite being pretty much the same CPU. In this case the 478 CPU will win right?
@_mat_
I am from Colombia, so, I am not sure if T-Shirt arrive or not since a lot of couriers refuse to send things to my country.
@ObscureParadox seems like that's correct. Prescott 478s came out in Feb '04, 775s in Aug '04.
Sorry for the ranking in Stage 1, there's a bug right now (and end of the year is always a bit busy with family so it's taking a bit time to fix).
_mat_ could you please help me?
I am trying to run the application but I get the error: "Application could not start (0xc000007b)."
I have vcredist_x64 2013 installed as well as 2010.
I tried that, not works.
I have C++ redistributable package from 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2013...could all those be the problem?
Try installing both x86 and x64 versions
Nevermind, problem found.
Only C++ 2013 could be installed, if you have more that one version you will get that error.
I will ask our delivery service, if it's possible and let you know.Regarding the VC redistributable error, I've never seen something like this. I guess one of your installed packages was damaged, so it was fixed by removing these. It's also good to know that the 2013 package is only needed in 32 bit, no matter if your OS is in 32 vor 64 bit.
Turrican Memorial is a great idea, congratulations hwbot , I think I need a new shirt
Paypal e-mail? i pay a cache but i havent email adress.
How the hell you can run this on XP...I am getting a lot of problems with dll files...
What problems exactly? With OpenCL drivers?
The shop will guide you through. You need a PayPal account for international shipping, that's for sure.It's certainly not XP friendly. I've been working on it for a week and still can't get it to run.
GPUPI for CPU - 1B doesn't run on dual Opteron 8431 with error message
"Error: Could not create series term kernel 0!"
SDK v2.9 (latest stable) installed
OS Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
On GPU everything goes just fine: http://hwbot.org/submission/2720007
You are using a very old AMD APP driver. Installing the latest Catalyst drivers or the lastest AMD APP SDK should fix this. You can check the driver version in the benchmark itself where it says "AMD APP (1xxx) is ready". The number should be 1500+ in the latest versions.
It's mostly an OpenCL driver issue.If I may ask, why even bother with XP?
Because XP is usually more 'Pi' friendly as far as tweaking goes.
This should not be the case as far as I know. The newest drivers have had the most impact in the past. But I'm always curious, the bench is pretty new and tweaks/best practices have yet to be found.
I like a challenge..........and an edge, if I can find one.
Same here, almost 1 week including fresh installation and nothing seem to work. Have you tried XP x64?
Because like Mr.Scott says: I like the challenge...I want to know if XP makes a difference in that bench.
Got it working.
You need AMD APP SDK v2.5 for Windows-32
Tough to find, so if you can't find it e-mail me.
Could I ask why AMD doesn't show "age"? I only get a N/A...
I will look for it when I arrive at home, thanks Mr.Scott.
I get it working on Windows Vista x86, installed Visual C++ Redistributable 2013 package and AMD APP SDK v2.7.
ES allowed in Stage 1 ?
EDIT:
Can i use GPU for bench and what will be count for age, system CPU age or GPU age ?
EDIT2: Or if used CPU for calculation count CPU age if GPU used count GPU age and in both case better is oldest CPU or GPU ?
I guess that ES is allowed, at least from 3770k generation or lower...
If you use GPU for calculation, only counts the lower time..not matter the GPU generation that your use. If you use CPU for calculation, the age of it counts for the ranking.
I am not sure you understand me right because:
"In the first stage, "Turrican's Choice", the oldest hardware wins"
If i use gpu to calculate the Stage 1 bench what age will be taken gpu or cpu ?
Edit: I gues i can't use GPU for calculations, i see at submision it says "GPUPI for CPU - 1B" and for stage 2 is GPUPI - 1B. Can someone confirm i cant use VGA to calculatgein stage 1
On 1st stage only counts CPU, the calculation should be done with CPU.
Check this on the discussion thread:
" The first stage is called "Turrican's choice" and focuses on old hardware. Run GPUPI in 1B on the oldest CPU possible and overclock the hell out of it afterwards. The oldest chip with the fastest run wins! Yes, you know you wouldn't stand a chance if Karl could participate.*"
Thanks mate! My bad, Now i got it. Maybe because it was not included in competition rules and giudelines. Hope more people join!
I'm just benching for fun and honor of Karl.
We (EK) have organized some nice hardware prizes so get your benching spirit on! Top spots await!
I always bench for fun first.
Karl was a hardware hero, an icon to me. Incredible amount of knowledge.
Alex (Antinomy) is much the same. Now don't go gettin a big head or anything buddy.
http://hwbot.org/newsflash/2781__turrican_memorial_charity_challenge_extended__additional_prizes_by_ek_water_blocksFrontpage news finally! Thanks for your support tiborrr, it's very much appreciated.
Regarding the prizes, we have separated stage 1 and stage 2 so all the oldschool benchers won't need R9 290's to grab some loot (and the other way round). Without further ado, lets bench!
Btw, the first shirts are being printed as we speak and will very soon be shipped.
Cant get it to work on xp, I will install 7 and try my best. Have fun evereybody.
Ordered the shirt and donated on top of it
T-shirt arived, thanks Mat
Awesome model!
Why is the age of my CPU (Intel Celeron s478 2.0Ghz 'Northwood celeron .13') is listed as N/A? http://hwbot.org/submission/2746311_
Can't get this Bench to run on Win7 x64.
Installed the Lastest Catalyst Driver & vcredist_x64.exe still get the MSVCP120.dll error.
Was I supposed to install anything else.?
Help Please....
You have a D1 stepping cpu
vcredist_x86.exe and AMD APP SDK v2.7 here worked fine for the FX-55
Makes me look 32 years younger :woot:
vcredist_x86.exe is the right one for the bench (and for any other 32 bit application running on 32 bit or 64 bit OS!).Thanks guys.
Installing vcredist_x32.exe fixed it.
Although @_mat_ I think you should clarify on the FAQ page that even just trying to run GPUPI requires both vcredist instead of just 64 bit one.
Atleast that's how it was for me.
TASOS, yes, my processor Intel® Celeron® Processor 2.00 GHz, 128K Cache, 400 MHz FSB revision D1. What prevents him take the appropriate rating?
There is not enough data , in hwbot database about certain cpu's.
So , somebody has to add them manually ... and that takes time.
It's not only your result , there are more.
They will fix it soon.
TASOS, thank you for the explanation.
Thanks for pointing that out. I have clarified this much butter (and in aggressive redGot my tshirt yesterday too as well as a p4p800-e ^^
Is playing with the Batch size & reduction size allowed.?
Any chance of adding "age" to last scores
other need a hand also 
nope as far as i know
n/a and today is the end for noctua ?
8800gts not suported
Yes, it is allowed and it should be! Each graphics card can perform very different on each setting. If you want to optimize your score, play around with it. It can speedup the whole calculation and enhance reduction time.
Hmm? Both stages are open until the 28th of February. We extended the competition two weeks ago.That's what I was thinking.
But their was some discussion about it, so I though an official clarification will clear the air.
Thanks.
Could somebody please do the process for the age of the CPUS with N/A?...
+1
ogblaz talk about Noctua prizes for Top 3 overal on 31-st.
About batch and reduction size your answer is very welcome!
p.s. Better late than never
I just checked with the competition site and that's a misunderstanding. Those prizes were the original ones before we extended the competition with EK's prizes and doubled Noctua's.Massman, please be so kind and remove them!
Put an order on a slimfit, and a 15E donation.
Sorry, cannot participate in the benching - I've retired a long time ago, and I do not have the gear no more, however when I was active I appreciated chatting with the Turricanator, especially on the OCX chat.
That makes two of us.
I see, but it took me 3 days to get this running on my p4 and when i finally after 6+ hours bench I get N/A in return. I am dissapointed and this is my first competition that I participated. :\
Patience, it will be fixed. You did nothing wrong.
Fixed all the N/A dates. You guys are running some old stuff there. Turrican would have been proud to see this
Sorry about that. Is it correct now?
Sorry chief
But the ranking at stage-1 , is still wrong.
You left-out some scores from socket 423 , including the fastest time at the moment.
http://hwbot.org/submission/2749028_havli_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_pentium_4_1.5ghz_willamette_s423_13h_20min_58sec_176ms/
http://hwbot.org/submission/2749253_mr.paco_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_pentium_4_1.5ghz_willamette_s423_9h_38min_40sec_284ms/
http://hwbot.org/submission/2749386_tasos_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_pentium_4_1.6ghz_willamette_s423_9h_5min_59sec_816ms/
LoL , You cant change things after event is finished, you must do it in advance! For example i had to take few days off work and to buy some HW i dont need now to finish at top overal in time ........ tc tc bad mat, bad
From what I understand, the Noctua prizes remain while EK added more prizes on top of it.
Plus as per the old rules you had to finish in Top 3 overall in the competition instead of a stage to get a prize. Now if you finish in the top of 3 of CPU stage 1 & are not in the Top 3 overall, you still get a prize.
This is a win win except that you might have more competition due to the time extension.
The prizes should be top5 ^ ^ becouse there is so many
I got Noctua to double their prizes because of the new separation between stages. It's pure win, guys!Thanks Massman, all good now!
Wow, a lot of old CPUs. Seem that I will have to look for an oldest one again...
Fixed
Nope
its in wrong order now
Edit:
Current leader : http://hwbot.org/submission/2752184
Or he is D0 stepping and is more recent (2001)?
My result is not ranked.
All fixed
This is the release date I have for the 1.5G Willamette: 2000-11-20
Nope
As i see it.
You must switch the 1st and 3rd place (same cpu's) but ...
skydec is 1st , cause of faster time.
havli is 3rd.
My result is (9h 5min 59sec 816ms) , NOT 11h
The scores are ranked by "oldest hardware", then "first to submit". Not score.
Wait, what? How should we beat the first 3 then
Sorry , but the author of this competition , had written otherwise ...
That's what I have proposed for this competition from the beginning. I thought that at some time in the competition the oldest hardware is found. Then it's everybody to the battle stations and fire at will!Massman, would that be some kind of technical problem with the competition engine?
Let me check ...
D0 are 2001 atleast the one i have is 2001 but B2 is 2000
WooooW thats far away from sport and competition! Whats the point extend competition with one month then? Its competition not petition where people sign.
p.s. This killing all my will to bench ...
Fixed!
Awesome, thanks!
Lame question - how is oldest hardware defined?
1) Introduction date of CPU p/n like "1.5G Willamette"
2) Approximate date for steppings
3) Production week of certain chip
Well since we don't have per stepping db entries, #1.
In other words, release year is based on the 1st CPU that hit the market...independent of the revision.
Hello,
Is it possible to enable all of Turrican's hardware points? I recall him having many first place trophies in the older hardware department.
I'm sure he had them disabled himself so it's what he wanted to happen anyway. Probably best to keep it that way too.
Yes, he disabled the points by himself.
Totally agree with you, if he wanted disable, we should keep it in that way.
Anyone knows why the age of the CPU isn't taken into account for my submissions in the first stage of the challenge? They are made with a Pentium 4 1.4 GHz Williamette, using a Socket 423 Asus P4T motherboard.
The final phase of the competition is here and we are so close to 100 participants!
Yesterday I've wrecked my R9 290X Lightning (no screens of course), so I binned my ASUS GTX 980 STRIX samples one more time to participate in the competition. Best one could do 1630 MHz on air and I was able to beat my old score in 1B.
That's what I like most about overclocking ... if you put in an effort, it pays off. Not always, but suprisingly often.
http://hwbot.org/submission/2776628__mat__gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_980_30sec_706ms
Excuse me but why wast my submission added to the competition?
http://hwbot.org/submission/2776088_
How do you mean?
This 0.8mhz s423 cpu is from MARCH 2000, 8 months older than the P4-1.4 & 1.5 that are from November 2000.
I submitted it on the 27th for stage-1 before the end of the comp and it was not put into the rankings as the oldest cpu. My submission of the 1.5 is the one still in the rankings.
He is right: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium_4/Intel-Pentium%204%20-%2080528PC1.XG0K.html
Very nice CPU!!
Probably ? (i dont really know)
Cause the result moderators didnt have enough data about that cpu.
You could have helped them a bit , by providing an actual photo of that cpu ... and also a screenshot from an older cpuz version , that recognised the cpu.
That's my thoughts.
Or they could have just asked Alex. Use your resources.
Thread from 4 years ago. Hope it helps.
http://classicplatforms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=6317
I gave what info I thought would be enough.The cpu ihs markings have all thinned out so much you cant see any writing on it, so that would have done no good.
All the cpuz versions I have tried all show the same. I have not tried them all.
Turrican added the cpu himself to the data base on 05-06-2011
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=25536
Looks like a very tough case for a moderator.
With no markings on the heat spreader you are left alone with software detection only.
And can anybody ever be sure , about when this ES cpu was produced ?
Because we are not talking about a release date here.
If we had the production code printed on the heat spreader , that would have been enough (as i see it).
What does cpuz version 1.21 show ?
Can you match the readings , of what has been verified as a P4 800 ?
Cause there's a difference in cpuid (family).
P4 ES
Mr paco ES
There is also a big difference is fabrication
P4 800 ES => Heat spreader on top left corner
Mr Paco ES = Almost centered heat spreader
Honestly, is this really necessary?
Turrican himself added it to the database, so more than one person knows it exists.
CPU World has an entry in their database.
CPU has been dated, it doesn't really matter if it's an ES or not.
If you want to take ES into account, it may have even been earlier than 2000. Nobody knows. Point is, it's a valid CPU.
You guys can do what you want, we know who the real winner of the stage is.
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