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Old School is Best School Round 3

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Old School is Best School is a team competition series for the overclockers who enjoy tuning ancient hardware. The series includes five rounds with each two stages. Each round lasts two months, so you have plenty of time to track down all hardware.

In the third round of the Old School is Best School competition series, we compete in SuperPI 1M and Memory Clock. In the first stage, SuperPI 1M, the hardware is limited to socket A processors. The frequency is also limited to 2401 MHz. In the second stage, Memory Clock, the hardware is limited to FPM Memory. For both stages a system picture is required. For stage 1 you need a screenshot, for stage 2 a verification link. Good luck!

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Starts
01 Jun 2015, 12:00 UTC
Ends
31 Jul 2015, 12:00 UTC
Status
Completed

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RomanLV
RomanLV

Clarification.

Memory FPM only or EDO too?

CPU-Z FPM already recognize? (old (as I remember) did not recognize)

TerraRaptor
TerraRaptor

according to previous discussion FPM only. Dunno about cpuz. Still no category for FPM @hwbot btw.

ZFeSS
ZFeSS
Still no category for FPM @hwbot btw.

AFAIK it will be implemented.

RomanLV
RomanLV
Dunno about cpuz.

Discussions have not seen. The reason I ask - not all know how to distinguish EDO and FPM (or pretend they do not know;)). And if the program does not distinguish - people will start sending everything.

PS Memory modules are visually identical and differ only in the markings of chips (AFAIK). And there are motherboards that work with any modules.

havli
havli

Yeah - there are also chipsets that work with both EDO and FPM but don't use advanced EDO features and report everything as FPM.

Bones
Bones

There's also the problem with some like myself having trouble with CPU-Z not working with a Socket A to get a validation.

To this day the newer versions will not work for me, locks up the system everytime.

Massman
Massman
according to previous discussion FPM only. Dunno about cpuz. Still no category for FPM @hwbot btw.

 

The category is there, just no submissions yet to display.

 

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QuickFast
QuickFast
There's also the problem with some like myself having trouble with CPU-Z not working with a Socket A to get a validation.

To this day the newer versions will not work for me, locks up the system everytime.

 

Same problem :) just got done pming Mr scott to see if he knew what was going on

 

What I am doing is once windows loads open cpu-z once if you can then I open Maxxmem let that load then open cpu-z again then I am running what ever bench with both cpu-z tab open

 

Lost some good scores because of this :(

Mr.Scott
Mr.Scott

I honestly can't tell you why.

I don't have that problem. Never did.

Best guess is that it's something you guys are stripping out of your OS.

GENiEBEN
GENiEBEN
Same problem :) just got done pming Mr scott to see if he knew what was going on

 

What I am doing is once windows loads open cpu-z once if you can then I open Maxxmem let that load then open cpu-z again then I am running what ever bench with both cpu-z tab open

 

Lost some good scores because of this :(

 

Using anything on USB by any chance?

Bones
Bones
I honestly can't tell you why.

I don't have that problem. Never did.

Best guess is that it's something you guys are stripping out of your OS.

 

So far it's done it whether I'm running a stripped OS or not with every Socket A setup to my name.

 

Haven't paid much attention to a USB device in use being a possible culprit but since I'm currently installing a stock/nonstripped OS on an A, I'll see what happens.

I don't use USB periphials whenever it's possible to run PS2 with both a keyboard and mouse so I doubt I had one in use in the past with these issues BUT I'll be sure of it this time.

QuickFast
QuickFast
Using anything on USB by any chance?

 

Same as Bones no usb just PS2

 

Just took me 3 hours to open cpu-z this is crazy-and have the bench fail :(

TASOS
TASOS

Can you test older versions of cpuz ?

Bones
Bones
Can you test older versions of cpuz ?

 

Already done and version 1.60 and newer will lock things up. From 1.59 and older works no prob and note that this is the point when CPU-Z began to be shown as X32 or X64 versions instead of just plain old CPU-Z.

 

I don't know how things were changed in it but these changes are the obvious culprit here.

NoMS
NoMS

Can someone share the competition wallpaper here? :)

The link on OC eSports page is broken for me ( open a new tab which redirect to http://oc-esports.io/#!/ ).

 

Thanks!

MrPaco
MrPaco

@Bones & QuickFast;

I've had that issue before with sA,Socket-8 & Slot-1.

Try this:

Open the CPUZ ini file and at SENSOR change the #1 to a 0. It worked for me hope it helps you guys...

varachio
varachio

Then I have to ask again for clarification since I cannot figure out from what I red before...

We use FPM or EDO ram or both of them?

 

FPM has 30pin

EDO has 72pin

 

See picture attached.

 

We should clarify this...

Mr.Scott
Mr.Scott
Then I have to ask again for clarification since I cannot figure out from what I red before...

We use FPM or EDO ram or both of them?

 

FPM has 30pin

EDO has 72pin

 

See picture attached.

 

We should clarify this...

If I'm not mistaken, there is FPM on some 168 pin SD pcb's also.

ObscureParadox
ObscureParadox
Can someone share the competition wallpaper here? :)

The link on OC eSports page is broken for me ( open a new tab which redirect to http://oc-esports.io/#!/ ).

 

Thanks!

 

This, there is an issue on my 775 boards with this too, I have to have sensor 0 on all my 775 boards now.

Marquzz
Marquzz
If I'm not mistaken, there is FPM on some 168 pin SD pcb's also.

 

There are 72 pin with FPMs also, as there is EDO on 30 pin. FPM is just a technique. Never heard of FPM on 168 pin though.

 

I think they should've picked a specific number of pins instead of a type of chip as this is very hard to distinguish.

Strunkenbold
Strunkenbold

FPM has 30pin

EDO has 72pin

 

See picture attached.

 

The picture is not quite correct. As Marquzz said it has only something to do with the used chips.

If there is 00 at the end of the chip its FPM. 05 and 09 is EDO. If unsure, google the datasheet.

Strunkenbold
Strunkenbold
So far it's done it whether I'm running a stripped OS or not with every Socket A setup to my name.

 

I set my maxmem to 104 and I was affected by the same issue. Never had the same on any other platform and I tested many!

Really strange, but it hardlocks the PC, will investigate further.

 

Ok maxmem 200 and 250 also doesnt work, but 270 does!

varachio
varachio
The picture is not quite correct. As Marquzz said it has only something to do with the used chips.

If there is 00 at the end of the chip its FPM. 05 and 09 is EDO. If unsure, google the datasheet.

 

Then you mean that:

 

My 30pin Siemens HYM91000S-60 are FPMs

&

My 72pin VM432117405CJSA-6 are EDOs

 

Correct?

Mr.Scott
Mr.Scott
There are 72 pin with FPMs also, as there is EDO on 30 pin. FPM is just a technique. Never heard of FPM on 168 pin though.

 

I think they should've picked a specific number of pins instead of a type of chip as this is very hard to distinguish.

 

Pic of FPM on 168 pin sticks. These are Mr.Pacos. Finding a board that runs them is another story.

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