93 pts teza.harsony

My XTU score is not showing a Temp, won't let me enter one, and It will not let me submit.

Which XTU version are you using? The latest version should always show a temperature.

why gpupi can't run . i use win8.1,g3258

why gpupi can't run . i use win8.1,g3258

why gpupi can't run . i use win8.1,g3258

Ill take a look when i get home, as far as i know its 5.2, it shows a temp for the benchmark but did not upload one with the subbmission, if that makes sense

why gpupi can't run . i use win8.1,g3258

What is the error message?

Ill take a look when i get home, as far as i know its 5.2, it shows a temp for the benchmark but did not upload one with the subbmission, if that makes sense

Thanks. Let me know if you still have problems.

only 5 points for first place xtu?

Hi there's a problem with stage 1 xtu .

Only 5 points for first place and score isn t divided by number of cores like stated in the rules .

is it allowed to disable cores/threads and use 47xxk in stage 3 ?

Thx

@ massman, http://hwbot.org/submission/2898378_

That is the submission i was going to use but as you can see on the HWBOT submission, my temperature was never recorded. Just curious if you know why or how i may be able to fix it. I havent had a chance to participate yet hopefully i will soon, and i will get that version info to you.

I get this error. How do I fix it?

Thank you,

KedarWolf

Error why hwbot prime said divided by core but i see in stage no divided

And XTU

@george.kokovinis Hey I just had the same problem, If you type in your Processor information manually, The box expands and there is a spot for you to type your Temps.

In both Stage 2 and Stage 3 the temperature is not recorded. Not sure exactly where you mean you type it in. I manually type my CPU in the submission page that opens up, no spot to put the temperature.

Actually it doesn't allow me to type in processor type, filled out automatically, just clock speed etc.

Wait, I figured it out. You are right.

In Stage 2 it won't let me type in processor type and temperatures etc. It's filled out automatically with no option for the temps.

I think a ,em has a high end system win , it/s mine not fair.a lot error

Hi there's a problem with stage 1 xtu .

Only 5 points for first place and score isn t divided by number of cores like stated in the rules .

- the points, that is correct.

- fixed the "divided by cores" problem

I get this error. How do I fix it?

 

Thank you,

 

KedarWolf

Hi KedarWolf,

- for XTU: the application will detect the temperature by itself and everything should work automatically

- for GPUPI: if you submit from the application, load the submission and then click 'edit' in the sidebar. Then fill out the load temperature in the Processor section.

- for other benchmarks: when submitting the result fill out the load temperature section.

See images below

@ massman, http://hwbot.org/submission/2898378_

That is the submission i was going to use but as you can see on the HWBOT submission, my temperature was never recorded. Just curious if you know why or how i may be able to fix it. I havent had a chance to participate yet hopefully i will soon, and i will get that version info to you.

Hm ... I suspect you might want to run the latest version to fix the temperature issue.

Thanks Massman for the answers .

is it allowed to disable cores/threads and use 47xxk in stage 3 ? Thx

I have a stupid question -- how do I force GPUPI to use only 2 cores? Sorry, I'm such a rookie, but I'm baffled. lol

Thanks Massman for the answers .

 

is it allowed to disable cores/threads and use 47xxk in stage 3 ? Thx

For Stage 3, the score will always be divided by the default amount of cores.

I have a stupid question -- how do I force GPUPI to use only 2 cores? Sorry, I'm such a rookie, but I'm baffled. lol

You can disable cores from the BIOS. Which motherboard do you have?

Pure mathematics. Read on...

 

The competition should be only for four core processors ( 4770K - 4790K ).

Since stage 2 and 3 results are divided per core, please make a simple calculation ( especially for stage 3 ).

In order to achieve in stage 3 a score with a 5960X, comparable with a 4790K, you have to run the 5960X over 6ghz.

Can this be done ?

NO. Not even with LN2.

Can you run a 4790K at 5100 with a good water setup ?

EASY.

Who wins in stage 3 ?

4790K.

 

Case closed.

 

Stage 2.

Divided per core CPUPI 1B. Cool.

Try to run a 4790K at 5ghz and a 5960X at 5ghz with 2 threads.

 

Case closed also.

 

Please rename the competition to " ....for four core processors ONLY "

Stage 3 hwbotprime is the best is g3258 5,3ghz

For Stage 3, the score will always be divided by the default amount of cores.

 

I'm sorry Massman , my question was for stage 2 (gpupi 2thread)

Can we use 4790k and disable cores/threads ?

Thanks

@george.kokovinis: Per core is to level the playing field a little bit, because not all of us can afford 2 E5's and 256GB worth of ram. G3258 is a dual core, and trust me you would kick its ass all day in XTU. But when it comes to reading ram at CL9, and a clock speed above 5Ghz , its a decent little chip. Competing isn't about who can buy the best stuff its about surpassing what everyone else does with what they are given. Continue benching, I encourage it, but don't expect to be able to BUY a win in a competition here. We come here to compete for first, not for second because somebody else has more money.

@nvidiaforever2 : That is what everyone else in the competition has done so far, either through bios or CPU affinity in task manager.

@nvidiaforever2 : That is what everyone else in the competition has done so far, either through bios or CPU affinity in task manager.

Only bios... - if you only set affinity at taskmanager you will still have cpuz show more than two cores and these will also be used by hwbot prime, gpupi or whatever multi-core thread you run - so please set core count to "2"in bios and disable HT if your cpu has Hyperthreading ability

Only bios... - if you only set affinity at taskmanager you will still have cpuz show more than two cores and these will also be used by hwbot prime, gpupi or whatever multi-core thread you run - so please set core count to "2"in bios and disable HT if your cpu has Hyperthreading ability

Yeah, I tried setting affinity in taskmanager, but when it didn't work that's when I got confused. Not sure why it didn't occur to me to disable cores in the bios, rookie mistake I'm sure. lol Thanks websmile, bbaxter, & massman!

My first suggestion is to keep the tones down and be calm.

My second suggestion is to think twice before speaking, moreover before writing.

Being polite might give you some advantage in life.

Being rude is incorrect.

 

To the point.

No one is trying to buy a competition.

But, when you are speaking of leveling out, I have a very simple technical question to ask.

How easy is it to run a G3258 or a 4790K at 5ghz and how difficult is it for a 5960X or a 5820K or a 5930K.

 

Second technical question.

Are you aware, because since I own from a G3258 up to whatever you can think off and I have benched the hell out of them all, that in order to produce the exact same result with two threads in GPUPI with a 4790K and 5960X, you have to run 4790K ( two threads ) at 5Ghz ( easy ) and 5960X ( two threads ) at 5.5ghz ( impossible without LN2 ).

 

Now, where is the leveling out ???

 

It is even more ridiculous, since I have been provoked of BUYING results, of the way the competition is constructed.

Enter CPU load temperature MANUALLY.

Who can check that ?

How ?

For example :

I have a 4790K.

And I submit a result with the cpu tuned at 5.3ghz-5.4ghz.

Achievable with :

1) A very good 4790K with a strong water loop

2) An average cpu with a chiller

3) Any cpu with a single stage phase change.

 

And writing down the temperatures I like manually. LMAO.

Kaboom.

These things are extremely far from being serious.

 

If you consider all the above as reasons of an OBJECTIVE competition, cool.

 

I do not.

 

The owners of HWBOT and OC-Esports should and can find alternative solutions to avoid misinterpretation of results, tips, tricks, and other nice stuff.

 

With respect to all, despite the provocative insult.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899298 hwmonitor

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899590 hwmonitor

http://hwbot.org/submission/2901620 hwmonitor

We added an extra rule asking for sufficient verification for the CPU temperature using, for example, HWmonitor.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. We try to make competitions as accessible as possible for as many people as possible. It's not easy to make everyone happy and sometimes the competition rules are more friendly towards one type of system than the other. The most important is to have fun!

We added an extra rule asking for sufficient verification for the CPU temperature using, for example, HWmonitor.

 

Thanks for all the feedback guys. We try to make competitions as accessible as possible for as many people as possible. It's not easy to make everyone happy and sometimes the competition rules are more friendly towards one type of system than the other. The most important is to have fun!

For stage 1 a screenshot with xtu temperature monitoring is ok ?

For stage 2 and 3 realtemp ok ?

Core temp is avaliable for showing temp or we must have Hwmonitor ?

We added an extra rule asking for sufficient verification for the CPU temperature using, for example, HWmonitor.

 

Thanks for all the feedback guys. We try to make competitions as accessible as possible for as many people as possible. It's not easy to make everyone happy and sometimes the competition rules are more friendly towards one type of system than the other. The most important is to have fun!

http://hwbot.org/submission/2902510

cores 2 threads 4

Hey guys, just wanted to say im sorry about going off the way i did the other day, it's just a competition. But im chiming in to let you guys know that i am going to clean up my runs hopefully tonight, when I was browsing through them i noticed that some of my screenshots weren't to spec. Thanks guys and Good luck.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2901620

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899298

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899590

Hardware sharing

http://hwbot.org/submission/2901620

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899298

http://hwbot.org/submission/2899590

 

Hardware sharing

What do you mean by sharing hardware?

This hardware is of my property

What do you mean by sharing hardware?

This hardware is of my property

 

i may have misunderstood hardware sharing when i read through it the first time. i understood that it was not using 2 diffrent cpus, in the same platform to perform better in the benchmarks. rereading i now see that it is borrowing hardware to use in a platform for benchmarks that is not approved. im sorry, that was my bad.

Hello. I found something.

RealTemp, CoreTemp, etc. must be disabled.

This software has the option calibration sensor.

You can set the high value of the offset. And bench on extreme devices (SS, chiller, etc.).

CPUID HWMonitor - does not have calibration options. Only it should be allowed.

Hello. I found something.

RealTemp, CoreTemp, etc. must be disabled.

This software has the option calibration sensor.

You can set the high value of the offset. And bench on extreme devices (SS, chiller, etc.).

CPUID HWMonitor - does not have calibration options. Only it should be allowed.

Thanks for the information! I will add this to the rules.

hi Massman do we really need hwmonitor for the stage 1 (xtu ) ?

Screenshot is not required and if u really want one u chan check temperature on xtu monitoring .

For XTU it's not required since XTU has temperature monitoring

Thanks .

vadimua said: Hello. I found something.

RealTemp, CoreTemp, etc. must be disabled.

This software has the option calibration sensor.

You can set the high value of the offset. And bench on extreme devices (SS, chiller, etc.).

CPUID HWMonitor - does not have calibration options. Only it should be allowed.

Let me update my score with HWMonitor for more valid result. Thanks for the info!

How I can enable HPET in gpupi

How I can enable HPET in gpupi

>cmd.exe as Admin

>bcdedit /set useplatformclock true

>restart pc

Let me update my score with HWMonitor for more valid result. Thanks for the info!

Your nickname is pretty good for the competition

:celebration:

Your nickname is pretty good for the competition

 

:celebration:

Well, my name is a hope

My gpupi can calculate gpu but not calculate cpu .I use g3258

Did you install the Intel OpenCL drivers?

@ bbaxter18 : Nice play

No @Massman . Do you have link

Here is link to the official GPUPI support thread, driver and open CL are linked there as well

https://www.overclockers.at/news/gpupi-international-support-thread

Is it allowed bench with 2 CPUs?

Vallimua bench with 2 CPUs!?

Of course allowed. i-7 for stage2, Pentiun for stage3.

Take a closer look, many participants use two processors.

And please write to my nickname without errors.

Ok,thx

Sorry, Vadimua

Just to clarify - yes, it's allowed

@ bbaxter18 : Nice play

Thanks. i need to get cracking again. Had a few hiccups.

Please make sure that your screenshots also show cpuz mainboard tab to prove that you used the mandatory Asus mainboard, seems that some people forgot about this. I cannot guarantee these results will be accepted for the competition without this

Why is the CPU temperature in idle must be higher than 20C? I think it's... not logical.

The Enthusiast League, according to the rules, water or air temperature must be higher zero.

When use ice water 1C, processor idle temperature of 6-8C. This is normal. This is by rules of the league.

Not interesting to use warm water to get a 20C in idle.

You're not fighting for a maximum result, you are fighting with a water temperature that would not fall below 20C.

GIGABYTE Z97 Last Hurrah Ambient Challenge : 'The CPU load temperature must be higher than 25°C'. It is right!

ROG OC Showdown Formula Series Round 2: 'No extreme cooling (<20°C) allowed'. Seriously, idle below 20 is extreme? Why the limit?

People can hit 25+ on single stages which you cant match with water cooling at all,rules are fine imho...

CPU in a idle heated very slightly.

The limit should be only for the temperature in the load. That's what I want to say.

Just respect the rules, it's not about Enthusiast only, but the competition rules is more important i think. Even if they say CPU Idle must be higher than 50°C. Just follow the rules, if not don't join the competition. The more important think is not all about gear, but skill and luck. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you. It's a good competition, good balance.

I'm talking about something else. This limit doesn't allow to show the maximum result for enthusiasts H2O/air.

I used X99 until now.

Can I change to Z97 for all the rounds ?

I used X99 until now.

 

Can I change to Z97 for all the rounds ?

yes, only make sure you use board by asus and if screenshot is mandatory, do not forget mainboard tab of cpuz^^

HW Monitor is already required and that shows the board mfg and type on the top data line. An additional CPU-z tab for mainboard is redundant as long as the board mfg is showing in HW Monitor.

Hwmonitor is needed for temp monitoring, it hasn´t been checked if it is reliable and safe against manipulation on Mainboard version and brand. There was one person on the comp that did not show mainboard tab on the results that were checked and I will not change rules that have been used for years because someone forgot to do what all others do and wants to make new rules in his own favour - you can send PM to Christian Ney if you think that rules are not fair and have to be changed, maybe he will overrule, but personally, without overrule, I will not accept results without CPUZ mainboard tab

Thanks websmile.

Hi, I have an Asus Maximus Vii Ranger, can I participate?

Yes Sir!

is my result in stage 3 valid? because if this not valid i need re-run. Thanks All.

I've forwarded the result to the moderators. From the looks of it, it seems bugged. But of course the result moderators are better suited for this.

Ok thank you Massman

Now i have a backup result if that result is invalid (i hope not)

THE CPU LOAD TEMPERATURE MUST BE HIGHER THAN 20°C - YOUR SUBMISSION IS INCOMPLETE

But....

Link to submission?

I had my new scores but I have a problem.

The new XTU score (with i7 4790K) is lower than last (i7 5930K).

I wish for the new score appear.

when time backup war will starting?

I had my new scores but I have a problem.

 

The new XTU score (with i7 4790K) is lower than last (i7 5930K).

 

I wish for the new score appear.

You should be able to unlink a score from the submission page. Check for "remove from contest" in the sidebar.

If you can't find it, let me know the link and I'll help you with it

Thank you Massman.

I just found the button "delete" on the submission.

I think it didn't that you explained me.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2925457

sorry, but below 20C

I had at least two submissions blocked because a core temperature was at 20C, not above 20C. The latest submissions still need to be checked by moderators.

I had at least two submissions blocked because a core temperature was at 20C, not above 20C. The latest submissions still need to be checked by moderators.

Non of your subs was removed because of temps - I told you that mainboard tab of CPUZ is mandatory and now see that you did all of your results you uploaded after our conversation here in thread without mainboard tab again . I have to remove them all, and on temp, I have to talk to Pieter again because it say load temp 20° at stages but 20° at general rules, for me it means sub 20 idle is forbidden as well, but I will get second opinion before I spoil people´s fun

Thanks for the test - for the actual comp it makes no difference though as everyone participating had the same maybe "incorrect" measuring. This is in fact one of the reasons we want competitors to use same software for readout of values and hardware, so that we have same chances for all even if something works a bit inaccurate - thanks again for the test, interesting result

tested, no temperature difference

http://img.maryno.net/images/e229a12ff47cc9c716b9c88cfee6a690/4b13aadfe3e95ced22ff876d07b598d1.jpeg

Websmile:

The rules page calls for "Submissions must include a picture of the rig (MB, VGA, memory, CPU cooler) during use, except XTU." That picture carries the responsibility for showing the motherboard if HW Monitor is insufficient.

NOWHERE in the rules is there a call for the Mainboard CPU-Z tab -- only the CPU and Memory tabs. I have strong objection to someone making up another rule and not placing it on the rules page, especially when it is made up late in the competition.

One thing I did not get from the above discussion is your authority. Are you a moderator?

This is under load.

I said on idle.

'min' value, again no difference.

Websmile:

 

The rules page calls for "Submissions must include a picture of the rig (MB, VGA, memory, CPU cooler) during use, except XTU." That picture carries the responsibility for showing the motherboard if HW Monitor is insufficient.

 

NOWHERE in the rules is there a call for the Mainboard CPU-Z tab -- only the CPU and Memory tabs. I have strong objection to someone making up another rule and not placing it on the rules page, especially when it is made up late in the competition.

 

One thing I did not get from the above discussion is your authority. Are you a moderator?

It is common knowledge that you have to show cpuz cpu,memory and mainboard tab when a competition is restricted to certain brand and mainboard series. And yes, "hwbot staff" under my nick says I am a moderator. As stated before you could have contacted Christian Ney, you obviously did not do, and of 150 submissions for this contest you are only one! who did not include cpuz mainboard tab despite rules. You even got a personal heads up two weeks before competition ended and uploaded later results without cpuz mainboard tab again I guess there is no need to discuss this anymore