186 pts Warp9-systems

How am I supposed to get a Data File for Hwbot Prime on Mobile...?

I can not put the result stage 2 on ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus.

This board has North Bridge NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI SPP rev A2.

but here it is http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/p5n32_e_sli_plus/ --- NFORCE 4 SLI X16 ???

Please fix this error.

here is an example CPU-Z: http://valid.canardpc.com/lejs7d

thank

How am I supposed to get a Data File for Hwbot Prime on Mobile...?

For HWBOT Prime on mobile, you'll need to submit via the app.

I can not put the result stage 2 on ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus.

This board has North Bridge NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI SPP rev A2.

but here it is http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/p5n32_e_sli_plus/ --- NFORCE 4 SLI X16 ???

Please fix this error.

here is an example CPU-Z: http://valid.canardpc.com/lejs7d

thank

Fixed

Massman, there is a bug in the Longest GPUPI 1B time, Anything over 24 hours reports as 2 days. my submission turned out like the other one.

Hm, you're correct. Thanks for the heads up, looking into the issue.

The sandbagging is strong in the GPUPI stage.

The sandbagging is strong in the GPUPI stage.

I don’t think it’s sandbagging folks are still waiting for the runs to finish

I don’t think it’s sandbagging folks are still waiting for the runs to finish

Dunno man, they had plenty of time, I spent 200+ hours on it already.

Go tell my X6800 Extreme, that he have plenty of time, and he even beat your longest run time in the end :-)

Question about the longest 1B run.

Do you have to have uniform speed on the run for it to be alowed or would it be ok to remove some load after lets say 15 batches to speed it up in the end if it takes to long?

how exact does the run need to be, would a run with an old motherboard without HPET that got a slight rounding error be valid? Aka a run where the batch times looks like the following example, yes I know its not valid or even complete like the screenshoot is now but wonder on the principle of the times.

I'm fairly sure that if you get that bloody big red 'X' that it won't be accepted. If you don't, it's all good for submission no matter how you got there, speed up, slow down, its all good.

It Can't Be Done Any Slower.....

Is Skylake allowed for stages like DDR4 CL10 and fastest 3DMark99 1x 6600GT?

I believe it is not allowed since it wasn't released when the TC started.

No, Skylake is not allowed.

I'm trying to submit a score for slowest GPUPI, but it detects my core 2 duo E8400 as a FX-7500. Any idea why?

No, that's not necessary. GPUPI 2.2 indeed fixes a bug for these slowest result competitions, but it's nothing that can't be moderated manually. Although we will have a good look at slowest results made with GPUPI 2.1.x in the currently running team cup stage. That's for sure.

If there is a bug that affects this competition shouldn't it be announced so that no one is inadvertently (or not) using it to slow the calculation. Especially since it can be moderated easily enough, or is this the type of bug that is more of a hack. I'm assuming that running stuff in the background to slow the calculation isn't considered a bug.

Slowing the already slow CPU by some settings are not forbidden or against the rules. The validity of resulting file counts most as well, as regularity of the Batch times, IMHO. Yes, I spoted one exploitable bug and I reported it ASAP and it cannot be publicaly mentioned right now. But I have no need to use it to slow down my score anymore

It is slow-enought, or is not it?

:D

There's public API that allows to pause executing code. Also using a debugger (ida,wdasm etc.) you can simply step-in/pause, controlling each loop easily. Oh well, can't wait to get back from holiday and start the machine up.

Well, I prefer hardware way to do the slow-downs. In some cases it works great (Aquamark), but on other cases it produce mixed results (SuperPi 32M). Disabling L1 cache/L1+L2 caches on fully stable mainboards cause the SuperPi always fail on 32M test during it, tested on 3 different machines (Jetway V266B, 100x5 AXP-M, 2048MB 2-3-2-6 DDR1 Qimonda rams - PCchips M810LR, 100x11 Barton 2500+, 256MB 3-3-3-6 SDRAMs - MSI PM8M3-V, 200x17 Pentium 4 650, 2048MB 2-3-2-5 DDR1 OCZ rams):

...but that is a bit OT there (that is aimed at 12+h SuperPi 32M runs)... yet if you have some infos, pls drop me a PM or start a thread about this...

There's public API that allows to pause executing code. Also using a debugger (ida,wdasm etc.) you can simply step-in/pause, controlling each loop easily. Oh well, can't wait to get back from holiday and start the machine up.

Okay, I see. Those actually interact with the actual program/code though. I can see why that would be banned.

Does it mean that non-even loops will cause a sub to be disqualified? I know the current run I have has them uneven because I turned off the background program(s) to make sure it was actually running or had frozen up. I wish it wasn't so vague on what the rules are for this type of stage. A ten or twenty day run is a lot of time to have to rerun because of unclear rules.

Shouldn't be a problem, even in a normal fast run the loops aren't all going to be equal, by design (every 4 loops was it eh?).

Why are we splitting HWBot Prime for Pi up into a per core score? There was no mention of this previously, so in essence you will need a single core to win this which is just stupid since prime doesn't scale well with cores.....

hwbot error , allows regular pc-system results to participate into raspberry pi category of team cup 2015.

^^^+1

Why nobody removes the top three results in Raspberry Pi HWBOT Prime?

The system HWBOT Prime should now be removed. Drop a message or better yet, report the score, when new ones pop up.

Why are we splitting HWBot Prime for Pi up into a per core score? There was no mention of this previously, so in essence you will need a single core to win this which is just stupid since prime doesn't scale well with cores.....

Hm, we haven't changed the rules since the beginning of the competition. So it should be the same as when announced.

hwbot error , allows regular pc-system results to participate into raspberry pi category of team cup 2015.

A minor remark.

Legit hwbot prime submissions (in their category) , that falsely entered the raspberry-pi stage , should not be deleted ... but just only be removed from the contest.

Is some anti-sandbagging system in place for SC4 or the stage is open for everyone to the end (September 30)?

I'm planing my GPUPI run, so I need to be sure when the deadline is.

I'm planing my GPUPI run, so I need to be sure when the deadline is.

I would care more about witch hour of the 30.9. the end happens. I quess that submission made till 23:59 is okay, right?

ohh the feeling when you to get home from a 5 days vacation to hear that the PSU sudenly fel in the floor so she had to turn it of and end that gpupi run that had been runing for 700h already.. guess its a huge coincidens that she was cleaning and moving things to my desk at the same time

Yep... Rasparthe had 160h loops on his run and lost power while he was out of town

Dear contest organizers - No more slow this and that, please. It's too frustrating!

Yep... Rasparthe had 160h loops on his run and lost power while he was out of town

 

Dear contest organizers - No more slow this and that, please. It's too frustrating!

Agreed, low score is one thing, but dont do it in a benchmark that slowsdown from it!

xxbassplayerxx -

Dear contest organizers - No more slow this and that, please. It's too frustrating!

Yes, it is. However that might be the point?

I hope I get the Aquamarsk with score 2 score soon, it took me 4 days short of one month and no score is build yet for me. I can improve it to score 1, I believe, but that will took me month and half...

...

Current progress:

GPUPI v2.2 388h progress

Thats why you use a 10h battery life tablet

Another way could be a UPS... if it does react fast to prevent power drop and error in calculation...

But luckily my power is steady and I only have the refresh bugses. The produced file was (hopefully will be again) valid and that is what counts.

So, apparently 946h isn't 40 days but 25? Time travel!

http://hwbot.org/submission/2979478

So, apparently 946h isn't 40 days but 25? Time travel!

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/2979478

This is actually just a bug testing routine for @Massman!

946h? Is not that too fast?

You have in Batch 9 only 363h. I got 452h on Batch 9:

4 cores Atom it too fast, mate You should tried to disable some of them...

Only 1 core running and the rest idle, makes working with it a lot easier

Heheh, iddle cores? Nice. Still, good work! At least you did not have (aparently) the refresh bug that is clearing my informations from the screen... We see how far I will got it

You can thank Powerstream Inc here in Canada for killing my 20+ day run on Sep 3, and I had almost made it to Batch 4.... I mean you only have one job, keep the power on!

Most definitively I will thank them! Batch 3 and 195h time sounds rather incredible That should be a pretty long run, if it actually finished. Longest run I ever made yet is my Aquamark for score 2: http://hwbot.org/submission/2980283_ 3 days short to one month )))

Can we use raspberry pi2 board for 5 stage?

It is a standard rule that only hardware is allowed that is commercially available at start of a competition - Teamcup 2015 started at 15.07.2015, nda on Skylake fell at 05.08.2015, so imho skylake is not allowed on any stage of this years team cup. I will ask head of moderation, but for me the case is clear, no z170 at this years team cup

Confirmaton on this, z170 is not allowed for any stage of teamcup due to being released after start of competition - please remove/replace your results with hardware that was retail before 15.07.2015

Punk Sods - not to worry, there will be more competitions, where you can show the Skylake out And IMHO it is fair that this competition is not all about "pay to win."

Sometimes you need patience to win

See? Half the test is done and 526h passed

Sorry to hear this, but this is not a new rule, it is valid for years now that only hardware commercially available at competition start is allowed for competitions. Sad to hear this causes problems for you now...

Dunno why. Maybe it is just because people are trying hard to get Skylake into these benches?

Dunno. I'm satisfacted with my old hardware for *some* benches

But recently it seems to run too fast to me:

39h per batch is too fast :D

...

But it looks like to me, that I cannot beat Spiedie 946h score because of time reasons. He got 946h, and I'm at 565h now. 381h short of his time. 381h is 15.8 days and we are at 23. September, witch give only 7 days to deadline.

Also 9 remaining batches for 39h translate to "only" 351h, so I will be 30h short of the 946h record long time.

The question is only... should I keep the bench running to the end?

You finally did the math i see

All my other slow runs have followed a 3x fast + 2x slow pattern, to the point that runtime = 27.5xfirst batch pretty accurately (or 27.5x any 5th batch, so batch 1, 6 ,11, 16, so 36h in the 946h run = 27.5x990h, close enough). Yours should then be 39x27.5 = 1072h. My plan of a 40 day run worked out pretty accurately i think

Well, yea I should done it sooner, but I'm more after the refresh bug with this run. Previous attempt stabilized the refresh in the batch 12: http://img.hwbot.org/u8592/image_id_1475307.jpg

And my run was like 4 fast runs, very closely to each other and then it get haywire - calculated time just by the hours, so, not very precise (23:57 is still counted as 23, so...):

1 - 2h

2 - 3h

3 - 3h

4 - 3h

5 - 14h

6 - 23h

7 - 19h

8 - 26h

9 - 26h

10 - 28h

11 - 21h

12 - 24h

13 - 23h

14 - 23h

15 - 22h

16 - 21h

17 - 22h

18 - 21h

19 - 22h

20 - 22h

But it still are quire stabilized in the last half. I used two instances of CPU-Z for CPU stress, opened windows. Not 3 instances, but minimized. Win7 not activated and during the test it start complain about not genuine... So I keep it this way, might be relevant to the refresh bug...

Still the question is same - keep it running or stop?

Can you speed it up so it will finish in time?

Sure I can kill the CPU-Z processes... but that cannot give me to win 1st place, not to mention the results with most of the batches invisible will be contraversial. Sure _mat_ will check the file and it will pass as good, because nothing wrong was done there, but... people will still complain. I can made it to last about 730h top, then it will be time to speed-up the calc and hurry to submit it.

What that could give...?

Sure I can kill the CPU-Z processes... but that cannot give me to win 1st place, not to mention the results with most of the batches invisible will be contraversial. Sure _mat_ will check the file and it will pass as good, because nothing wrong was done there, but... people will still complain. I can made it to last about 730h top, then it will be time to speed-up the calc and hurry to submit it.

 

What that could give...?

Well, a second or third place is not a win but still a good place to finish in.

And yea Im still a tad grumpy that my GF killed my 700h run (at batch 14) when I was away

I will read this text (translate) to my GF, because she managed to avoid killing my Aquamark almost month run to score 2, just to kick the power line by carelessly walking by, when I was saving the score logs and pictures to my flashdrive under normal settings (at lowered FSB 34MHz the USB does not work)... Unbelievable.

So, since I having hard time to orientate on the site, then what is the score I need to get to second or third place? Provided that no-one run like me, to submit at the last possible moment...

Reporting progress

Currently 648h and ticking. However... where I can find the current stage times, so I have an idea...?

Ras got loop one to complete at 509 hours

That could be megaslow, lol. (If he uses v2.1, then that could be done by ughly nasty trick too (cheat), I stumbled upon it and reported it...) But the problem is, that he cannot finish that in time

Mine are at 717h now, loop 14:

It is probably time to stop the CPU load now... or...?

PS. so I figured the oc-esports.io page and the scores are as follows:

http://oc-esports.io/#!/round/team_cup_2015_sc4/2352/slowest_gpupi_for_cpu_1b

1st - 950h 11m

2nd - 946h 3m

3rd - 609h 25m

4th - 368h 45m

...while that 4th submission is mine and I can be on 3rd place, as there is simply not enought time for me to get into 1st

Now there are only two questions:

- how long I should keep it running so there is safe time that it will end before the end of 30 September day

- what should I do to get around the refresh problem, so the score image will not looks crazy as before... I will take a vid from it (when someone feel the need to complain), but I cannot influence the screenshot into the resulting file

And THIS is not looking good at all:

Maybe I could take my own screenshot and _mat_ or someone could replace the GPUPI internal screenshot it with in case it get "weird" again?

BassPlayer was exaggerating slightly, only 420 hour loops. I don't believe its a cheat, just testing revealed the benchmarks Achilles heel but we will see if it will validate or not in the next day or so when I turn off the slowing process. If we are doing this stage for next year's Team Cup can we get the announcement now? With 420 hour loops if I start right now, I can just squeak in the entire benchmark in a year.

And I need a UPS.

Trodas that screenshot doesn't look valid at all, will that pass moderation?

just testing revealed the benchmarks Achilles heel

Care to explain this? I use CPU-Z to slow things down, but it produce the refresh bug...

If we are doing this stage for next year's Team Cup can we get the announcement now? With 420 hour loops if I start right now, I can just squeak in the entire benchmark in a year

LOL ... that is a good point

Trodas that screenshot doesn't look valid at all, will that pass moderation?

That is refresh bug, that is there from the very beginning for me. Maybe someone with AGP graphic could confirm that some day, but the screenshot is - believe or not - valid. The computation file is valid, witch is what matters. The screenshot is enbeded with the benchmark, witch is why it is and it will stays that way. I have even a video that show at least two serious refreshing problems (whole remaining times disappear) from saving of the score (

Or GPUPI 1B: http://hwbot.org/submission/2944654_

So, I probably try making own screenshot before things disappear ))

Wow, cant deny I was kind of nervous to see if the file it created before crashing would be good or broken when uploading it!

I see refreshbug...!

Good to know, tha I'm not alone... but okay. Time to slowly end the run, lol

Don't tell me you made an 800hour Youtube video???

No, just stoping of the CPU load... intesting for some, I believe. Some of the refreshbugs caused by not responding CPU-Z are visible...

And of course, in the end score, there is the refreshbug again!

http://img.hwbot.org/u8592/image_id_1496581.jpg

And the score cannot be submited - just now. Just great!

No, just stoping of the CPU load... intesting for some, I believe. Some of the refreshbugs caused by not responding CPU-Z are visible...

 

And of course, in the end score, there is the refreshbug again!

http://img.hwbot.org/u8592/image_id_1496581.jpg

 

And the score cannot be submited - just now. Just great!

The GPUPi stage ended like 20 hours ago or something so if your trying to submit not you missed the deadline

Uhm... what? I was quite sure that I have time till the end of 30.9.2015 ... did I missed something?

Uhm... what? I was quite sure that I have time till the end of 30.9.2015 ... did I missed something?

Yea, this competition was anoying with different ending time for all stages, so this stage ended very early today.

Stage ends

30.09.2015, 03:00 UTC

That was like 20h ago or something.

:eek:

This was one of the things that got me out of the cup.

This was one of the things that got me out of the cup.

yea our small 3 man team lost 2 submissions to this on the first round the 15th aswell and Im sure there was many others that lost submissions aswell.

Inb4 the hate train gets into town.

So what happens with the top score in stage 1 as it was done with a phone that was released after the comp started