1.78v here. Cpu is happy with 1.6v @3.55ghz and voltage curve goes to sky after that. I also wasn't able to validate this cpu above 3.65ghz this time - no matter voltage. I'm going to check some other things later this month (vdda and ldt voltages).
Should be -30 with the load like that (knowing my ss unit). -40 when idle. I control temps only with hot chips that may de-frost evaporator in order to shut down just before it happens.
Evap. Have no idea of the die temp? Is software monitoring that good with cold?
I asked about die temps , because you know how weird these E5 and E6 cores react with negative temps.
No software monitoring.
Many years back , when i was using extreme cooling , i remember i had to actively monitor realtime the die temp with an extra temp probe on the Fluke.
We had temp probes with very thin wires , that you could navigate through the cpu pins.
At the edge of stability , even a 2C temp difference had an impact on benchmarks.
For example , at -8C die temp you could finish the run , while at -10C you were blue screening (temp related) cold bug.
When using an SS it's very hard to hold the temps you need.
I was never lucky enough to have a 754 or 939 cpu without a cold bug (and we didnt have a list of cpu steppings to have ... back then).
On 3/6/2025 at 4:31 PM, raiden said:
Nope, not really. You can measure delta between load and idle pretty accurately but I’ve had temp readings colder than my evap temp on A64.
What do you mean ?
Evap temp will always be higher (colder) than die temp
Is this list of CB-free steppings available somewhere?
People that are still benching 754-939 with xtreme cooling should have a clue (i guess)
It wasn't such a big list anyway.
I can't find my notes at the moment (must be stashed away in some board box with other stuff ... probably)
and as always , i will find it when i wont be looking for it.
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1.78v here. Cpu is happy with 1.6v @3.55ghz and voltage curve goes to sky after that. I also wasn't able to validate this cpu above 3.65ghz this time - no matter voltage. I'm going to check some other things later this month (vdda and ldt voltages).
What can i say.
After so many years (in this hobby) , i thought i've seen it all.
But ... i was wrong.
Congrats for this awesome combo (board and cpu) and score !!
Die temp ?
Should be -30 with the load like that (knowing my ss unit). -40 when idle. I control temps only with hot chips that may de-frost evaporator in order to shut down just before it happens.
-30C die temp or evaporator temp ?
Evap. Have no idea of the die temp? Is software monitoring that good with cold?
I asked about die temps , because you know how weird these E5 and E6 cores react with negative temps.
No software monitoring.
Many years back , when i was using extreme cooling , i remember i had to actively monitor realtime the die temp with an extra temp probe on the Fluke.
We had temp probes with very thin wires , that you could navigate through the cpu pins.
At the edge of stability , even a 2C temp difference had an impact on benchmarks.
For example , at -8C die temp you could finish the run , while at -10C you were blue screening (temp related) cold bug.
When using an SS it's very hard to hold the temps you need.
I was never lucky enough to have a 754 or 939 cpu without a cold bug (and we didnt have a list of cpu steppings to have ... back then).
What do you mean ?
Evap temp will always be higher (colder) than die temp
Is this list of CB-free steppings available somewhere?
People that are still benching 754-939 with xtreme cooling should have a clue (i guess)
It wasn't such a big list anyway.
I can't find my notes at the moment (must be stashed away in some board box with other stuff ... probably)
and as always , i will find it when i wont be looking for it.
Not CB free, but this was -130c ish - https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/pifast/submissions/4569395
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